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Hurstpierpoint & Sayers Common
Parish Council

Minutes of the Highways, Cycleways & Footpaths Joint Council Working Group

Monday 4 December 2023 at 2.00pm

in the Village Centre Conference Room and via Teams Video Conferencing


Cllr Malcolm Llewellyn (H&SC PC) Chair               Cllr Julia Shorrocks (H&SC PC)

Cllr Bob Sampson (H&SC PC)                                     Sarah Groom (H&SC PC) Clerk to the Council

Cllr Rodney Jackson (MSDC)                                     Cllr Geoff Zeidler (MSDC)                                            

Cllr Joy Dennis (WSCC) via Teams

1.         Apologies for absence: Apologies for absence were received from Nick de Sousa (WSCC Highways) and Tracey McGovern (WSCC Highways).

2.         Minutes of the meeting of 25 September 2023:  The minutes of the previous meeting of 25 September 2023 were agreed.

3.         Community Highway Scheme (CHS):  The Chair ran through each of the items on the Community Highways Scheme as follows:

3.1Cuckfield RoadPlans approved at Sept 2023 meeting for double yellow lines (DYL) at junctions to ease flow, so southbound traffic does not have complete right of way for the whole stretch.  Junctions with Barter Close and Chalkers Lane not included. Update requested.
3.2Brighton Road: Plans approved at Sept 2023 meeting for double yellow lines to allow passing place on east side and was approved.  Large road sign to be cleared of overgrown vegetation. Resident request for parking outside her property adjacent to High Street roundabout.  Sympathetic but not possible as the roundabout must be kept clear of traffic and others would object.
3.3Hurstpierpoint High Street:Plans approved at Sept 2023 meeting for: changes to parking outside the Chemist.changes to the loading/unloading bay hours in front of New Inn. New standard category chosen (loading/unloading for any vehicle any time).  South Avenue parking at junction with the High Street. amendments to parking opposite Players Theatre.  Update requested. The Junction with Pitt Lane still required “Keep Clear” wording (with no lines) to allow east bound High Street traffic to turn into it to avoid further congestion.  ACTION: Cllr Dennis to see if this can be incorporated Extension of 20mph zone.  Location at western point to be agreed – bend east of St George’s Lane recommended.  – ACTION: Evidence of support requested.
3.4Reeds Lane double yellow lines.  Plans approved at Sept 2023 meeting for double yellow off roundabout and to provide a passing place.  Update requested.
3.5Reeds Lane weight limit and signageRequest for a 7.5 tonne vehicle limit was submitted by the Parish Council.  Denied by WSCC Officers.  ACTION: Cllr Dennis to follow up and insist due to Sat Nav technology it will change drivers behaviour and make a difference.
3.6College Lane & Chalkers Lane: 30pmh to Hurst CollegeCllr Dennis will review the 20mph and 30mph signage under the new speed policy and will include College Lane and Chalkers Lane. DYL at junction of College Lane and Wickham Hill agreed.  TRO requests submitted by Parish Council. Update requested.
3.7TRO to enforce double yellow lines on Pitt Lane.TRO submitted by Parish Council.  Agreed by Cllr Dennis. Update requested.
3.8Albourne Road TRO: Residents Request for 40mph speed limitResidents had requested a change to the speed limits on the Albourne Road which the Parish Council had supported. Completed.
3.9CHS for Chalker Lane junction with Cuckfield RoadCHS submitted by Parish Council on behalf of WSCC.  Withdrawn by WSCC.  Closed.
3.10All-weather surfacefootpath from Cuckfield Road to Hurst CollegeIncluded in Parish Council Chalkers Lane CHS submission (above).  Transferred to PRoW Team.  Update requested.
3.11London Road Parking Restrictions: Sayers Common Village Shop RequestThe Sayers Common Village Shop had requested parking restrictions outside the shop which the Parish Council had supported. Agreed by Cllr Dennis. Update requested.
3.12London Road CrossingPedestrian crossing north of Dunlop Close and road narrowing. Agreed by Cllr Dennis. Update requested.
3.13Speeding through east end of High Street – Resident request.  The suggestion was considered by the Working Group on 25.09.23 and it was agreed to monitor the extension of the 20mph speed limit east to Highfield Drive, and observe the parking on the north side of the High Street which helps creates a natural barrier to speeding.  Closed.

4.         Cycle Routes: 

Updates:  A number of brief updates were given as follows:

4.1East West Cycle Route (Hassocks to Sayers Common)Excellent updates provided by Project Manager.  Delay to the project at present due to the confirmation of land owner permissions. The Hurstpierpoint section is now expected to start in early 2024.  Planning permission is also being sought for a slightly amended route.  The Chair urged WSCC to prepare as much as possible whilst the permissions are awaited and undertake tree work before bird nesting season.  Permissive use agreement required with Parish Council as well.  Contract is with Landbuild and a project briefing is being held this week.
4.2Cycle Route North to Burgess HillDue to funding challenges, any link from Hurstpierpoint to the Centre for Outdoor Sports is likely to be incorporated in plans for the “land west of Burgess Hill“ District Plan developments rather than Phase 3 of the Burgess Hill Place and Connectivity Programme that was previously agreed.
4.3Cycle Route North from Hurst MeadowsThe cycle route north from the Millennium Garden through Hurst Meadows (and on towards Burgess Hill) will be managed by the Parish Council once the East West Cycle route is finalised.  Once the route leaves Hurst Meadows, the Place and Connectivity Programme will need to take the section north further forward.  This route will be subject to funding being available.

5.         Various Updates:  A number of brief updates were given as follows:

5.1Priority footpaths issuesThe Parish Council has still received no response from the Public Rights of Way Team following their inspection despite numerous requests.  Cllr Dennis will ask Jane Noble to contact the office.  ACTION: Cllr Dennis to email Jane Noble.   
5.2Speed Indicator Device (SID): The Parish Council is collecting data from various locations around the parish including Reeds Lane.  Data available upon request. 
5.3Trinity Road Car Park Electrical Vehicle Charging PointsThe former Cabinet Member for Parking at MSDC, Cllr Ruth de Mierre had agreed a temporary reduction in the 8 bays which were to be suspended so only 4 were in use, and gradually re-introduced as required.  ACTIONS: Cllr Zeidler gave update from MSDC.  Apparently officers knew nothing about it. Cllr Dennis will consult Connected Kerb and circulate the list of proposed additional EV charging points in the parish.
5.4No. 2 Cuckfield Road (Hurst Butchers): Reports of people parking across the pavement in front of Hurst Butchers.  The pavement and parking area appears to be in WSCC ownership.  ACTION: Cllr Dennis encouraged to consult the Highways Officer about enforcement/solutions.
5.5Lodge Cottage, South AvenueDrainage works, including a 278 Notice for Lodge Cottage on South Avenue will be required once the new development is completed.  The area of land at the entrance to Lodge Cottage is owned by the Parish Council but designated public highway.  The owner of the Cottage agreed to submit a Section 278 Notice to WSCC for permission to build a ‘fit for purpose’ connection to the Highways drainage system which will also improve the drainage off the Recreation Ground.  WSCC to monitor the application by the home owner for the cross over license.
5.6Chest nut Grove to Cuckfield Road Footpath:The WSCC Highways footpath continues to be flooded and muddy in the Winter or after heavy rain as the surface water has nowhere to drain to.  It is blocked by two close boarded fences particularly on the side that the water would normally run-off into.  ACTION: Cllr Dennis to consult colleagues about what could be done.
5.7Real-time bus information at bus stops.Real-time bus information boards will be installed at both High Street and Sayers Common bus shelters.  There is no advertising connected to the new boards.  The issue of over-crowded school buses from Willow Way has been resolved.

6.         Date of Next Meeting: The date of the next meeting is Monday 19 February 2024, 2pm.

Nicholas Scott, Public Rights of Way Officer to be invited to the next meeting.